Guard Reversals

This past Wednesday teacher skipped the normal lesson and had us work a little ground. The visitor from the last class was back with his wife so it may have been for their benefit. This time we worked two basic guard escapes: 1) The scissor sweep and 2) Shrimping and pushing.

Overall I really liked this lesson! It was new for at least three of us and we were all able to pick it up fairly fast and usually make it work. General old man observations:

  • Much easier to execute if my partner was my size or less
  • During both it was emphasized the importance of getting on your feet (though teacher did say you can use the scissor to reverse and mount)
  • Conditioning is still a problem for me — I foolishly thought I’d expend less energy down there but I still find myself getting winded pretty quick (definitely means I need to escape fast!)
  • Tight clothing can hinder

That last point was the laugh and the lesson of the night. We have no official “uniform” for this class. Since it’s self-defense for the street we are advised to wear loose fitting workout clothing with the option of coming to class in street clothing. I always wear old black karate pants and a t-shirt which works just fine. Every now and again we have one guy who does warehouse work and who will wear his work jeans and shirt.

Well Mr. Forklift was having a bugger of a time maneuvering on the ground in his very tight work jeans. About halfway through class we heard a rip followed by the word “shit!” Yup, you guessed it: he split the crotch in his jeans! Luckily Teacher loaned him a pair of sweats so he could continue. This did prompt Teacher to lecture us on what we wear and how it could affect you if you do get into a scrap on the street:

  • Ties can become nooses
  • Certain shoes will prohibit you from doing fancy kicks because of their high traction
  • Other shoes might be so slippery that you’d fall when executing kicks
  • Heavy shoes or boots can slow you down
  • Tight clothing can impede movement
  • Jackets or lose fitting shirts can be pulled up over your head and cause you trouble
  • Bulky clothes can slow you down

This incident made me think of a certain commercial from the 80s. What Mr. Forklift needs are a pair of Segefield Jeans!

I liked these two techniques for sure. Part because they were easy to pick up and use and part because they have “escape” built in. I’ve been thinking a lot about why I am so uncomfortable on the ground. I think it’s a few things: fear of my age, fear of an old injury, and, thanks to the prison days, paranoia about getting shanked while grappling. Unless I have an epiphany I doubt I’d ever pursue BJJ seriously. When and if we are able to move from this city I’ll likely look for a martial art that at least has some ground basics in it. If I can’t find that I’ll make due with whatever offerings are available.

Anyhow, let’s close with two videos that show what I learned. The only note here is that we did not punch as we shrimped and pushed. Otherwise these videos are pretty close!

(Note: Videos can’t be embedded. To watch click play then click on the “Watch on YouTube” link)

-BCP

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10 Responses to Guard Reversals

  1. Gye Greene says:

    Hey, as always, informative video choices.

    Tight clothing: Dunno how fashions are swinging in the States, but at least in the Brisbane (Australia) area, men’s fashions seem to be favoring narrow shoulders in shirts and jackets. Can’t stand the feeling — I’ve been tending to buy two sizes up, just so I can move. Makes me want to wear bowling shirts and Hawaiian shirts. ;)

    Since I work in a hot climate, and on a university campus, I can get away with wearing walking shorts. I can’t stand jeans any more: too tight in the thighs.

    –GG

  2. Gye Greene says:

    Also: The class you’re in sounds **excellent**: super-useful.

    The more I read about your experiences, the more I want to avoid classes where you burn up class time learning katas/forms.

    –GG

  3. For the price, my availability, and what we get it’s a good class. I think my shanking paranoia is coloring my opinion in general. RE: katas. I would go back to forms/katas under the right circumstances. There is a piece of me that loves what the traditional arts offer. This class has a dash of form work on the wooden dummy. However it’s used as a tool to learn the motions — from there we practice in application drills. I seem to find something comforting or meditative in learning a new form. In fact I still practice my Tae Kwon Do forms.

    I can’t remember – are you practicing now or thinking about getting back into a MA? Regardless you might want to look around for civilian krav maga. I’ve been researching it heavily. It emphasizes “martial” over “art” and has a dash of ground. For sure it’s on my short list…

  4. Gye Greene says:

    Katas: I’m pretty good at picking up techniques that are individual, or short combinations — but have a hard time learning the choreography to a longer sequence. So, for myself, the cost:benefit ratio is pretty bad.

    Current MA involvement: Nope, non-practicing (really, not even exercising; gah). I watch the kids three workdays a week, and spend the rest of the time (i.e., evenings and weekends) trying to make up the remainder of my 18 hrs./wk. “part-time” employment. Hopefully things will stabilize once the kids are in school.

    I’m currently considering “real” ju-jitsu (i.e., not BJJ), Krav Maga, or this Black Crane kung fu style — all within about 15 mins of my house.

    The Black Crane style intrigues me:

    -they do a lot of weapons work — http://www.blackcranekungfu.com/whatweteach%5Cweaponry.asp

    -have a decent self-defense focus — http://www.blackcranekungfu.com/whatweteach%5Cselfdefence.asp

    -have very few forms — http://www.blackcranekungfu.com/faq.asp (second from the bottom FAQ)

    -and a lot of chin na and throws (in addition to punching and kicking) — http://www.blackcranekungfu.com/whatweteach%5Cchinna.asp

    One of these days, I’ll actually observe a class…

    –GG

  5. Saneesvara says:

    Ha! Reminds me of the old Chuck Norris jeans.

  6. Excellent videos, really like the escape from guard using the scissor throw, am going to try that one. Regarding clothes for grappling, do not tie the side strings on a traditional cross over gi when rolling. Seen a lot of them torn off that way.

  7. Gye,

    Black Crane, eh? Interesting. I skimmed their page. I’ve not heard of the two styles they blend. Sounds like they are a hybrid of sorts.

    Chin Na is a blast but it typically is not complete re: ground. I would not call that a deal-breaker though — if they were in my area and I was looking I’d certainly visit them!

  8. Looks like you are in for some high kicks! Also sounds like it has more Chin Na than Mantis did.

    Like other crane styles, Black Crane is characterized by wide-armed and wing-like movements, high kicking and the hand position shaped like a crane’s beak with the fingertips held firmly together. The ancestral style was believed to have been developed by an old man who witnessed a fight between a crane and an ape, with the crane emerging victorious because of its accurate strikes to the ape’s vital targets. Black Crane style uses a short-range style of boxing as well as throws and locks.

    Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/149966-northern-shaolin-kung-fu-styles/#ixzz17tl6XwLp

  9. Tater says:

    I loved your choice of videos. I’ve heard of shrimping, but had no idea what it really was. Good tidbit for vocabulary.

  10. Tater –

    Shrimping is what my boss does re: the budget.

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