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Information Overload

October 29, 2008 · 4 Comments

Tonight I combined chin na with praying mantis and I have to say I enjoyed myself. However, it was information overload.

First, there were no level one guys in china na. So I got thrown in with levels two through four. I still got to work some of my stuff but I was also fresh meat for the higher guys. I actually got to try a couple higher level locks. Whether or not I’ll remember them is another story but it was kinda cool. I was also the crash test dummy for a lot of the techniques so I’ll be sore for sure.

The level four and  higher guys had an energetic session. They were working on live drills, flowing, and sticking. They even got to the ground which was interesting to watch between cranks and pain. In addition, Smiley caught a kick to the “junk” from Mantis. It was an accident and for a few seconds I thought Smiley was done. I’ve been kicked their before with a protector and it hurt so I can only imagine what it must have felt like. It does show that no matter how you do it, a good old kick to the hoo-ha will stop most guys period.

As for mantis…

It started with stretching and then rolled into line drills. It’s sort of like in taekwondo when we’d do certain fundamentals down and back across the room (e.g. rising block, middle section punch, reverse side kick, etc.). The main difference being they work combinations and flow from the very first beginner class. In taekwondo we did not start to put that together until the mid-ranks. Things like a grab, punch, step, block/punch, step, kick/punch. Then back down the other side with the same pattern. We also spent a lot of time in two of their main stances which I cannot pronounce. One is a version of horse and the other is almost like being in a deep fencer’s stance.

We then had a nice interlude of what I’d call push-up palooza. We did regular push-ups, knuckle push-ups, finger-tip push-ups, clapping push-ups, and push-up on the backs of our bent wrists. The latter is actually a bent wrist strike that they use.

Then on to forms. I “learned” (and I use that term loosely) the first two parts of a twelve part form. There’s no point in even trying to describe it and I see that I’m going to need to buy a notebook and take notes so I can practice the darn thing. The main thing I noticed again is flow. Compared to taekwondo forms this is like an automatic transmission. There’s a part called sun fist where you essentially step deep and backfist your attacker; then, without missing a beat, you role into a inverted back fist with the same hand (opposite side of head). There’s also a couple of simultaneous kick/punches in it which again transitions into more hand techniques.

The hand strikes so far are these:

  • A vertical fist side punch that slips over a block (blocking hand stays by armpit to guard)
  • The back fist/inverted back fist
  • These crazy windmill hammer fist combos
  • A chambered punch that twists at the last possible second

Kicks are very interesting. First, the heel never leaves the ground and you not only pivot on your heel but you also step back down on it. We did what I’d sorta compare to a front snap kick. However, if you were kicking with your right you’d pivot on your left heel (toes out). One version has you almost chambering, then pausing with toes pointed down to guard, then stepping. Another version has you sliding it up without chambering at all.

Last, but not least, the mantis hook! (not even trying the Cantonese–main sifu at main schools speaks Cantonese) I was taught how to do it in the air (poorly) and as I watched I had to admit I thought that there’s no way it’d work in combat. That is until I had it done to me (and I opened my mouth). Let’s put it this way: When that thing cinches onto your wrist/forearm you are hosed. Try to pull out and it gets tighter and also adds energy to the punch that’s coming from their free hand. I also got to apply it and even not knowing what the heck I was doing I could make it work. I can see how very effective this could become after six or so months of practice.

Past that I had a crash course in in-fighting. All I can say is it made me very uncomfortable because the guy who was working with me tied up my kicking immediately. Granted, I did not try to punch–part out of respect and part because I did not want my ass handed to me. I was tossing things out slow and he was showing how he could trap while simultaneous tying up my legs so I could not kick. All I wanted to do was get him at range, throw some kicks, then maybe a few punches and get the hell back again.

So am I sold? Yes if I can afford it (read conference with the missus). I really like the in-fighting and I also like how the forms flow and are rapid fire. I definitely think there’s techniques here worth learning. Plus it’s pretty cool that it’s a traditional martial art that’s far removed from martial sports.

~BCP

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A Little Mantis…

October 28, 2008 · 4 Comments

Tomorrow night I’m staying after Chin Na and am giving the praying mantis class a try.

Chin Na translates to mean "Seize and control" and is
essentially "Chinese Jujutsu".

The school where I train at is traditional and from what I’ve heard the Mantis workouts are intense so I have to get my head in the game. There are different styles of Northern Mantis including Seven Star, Eight Step, Plum Flower, Secret Gate, and Six Harmony. In addition there are other derivatives of this style.

Northern Praying Mantis emphasize on breaking joints rather than striking. Another common technique used in this art is the use of mantis hook. A mantis hook is a hand being held to resemble a mantis talon, and is used for striking, blocking, and parrying.

From what I’ve seen they still do an awful lot of hand strikes! The kicks I’ve seen are for two purposes: 1) Distraction to set up a punch or 2) To break a knee.

The school that I study Chin Na at teaches Seven Stars Praying Mantis:

Seven Stars Praying Mantis got its name from the seven classical stars in Chinese Astrology. It is a largely soft-style, evading direct power confrontations. A Seven Stars Praying Mantis’ footwork follows a pattern resembling the seven classical stars.

So, we shall see how this goes. If I like it and can hang I’ll probably sign up for November. Since I have Mantis on the brain I’ll leave you with a nice video that covers some of the styles. At about 2:10 and 6:40 you can see a little Seven Star. In addition, if you watch the whole thing you can see a couple versions of two person sets.

Expect a post-Mantis report!

~BCP

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Martial Arts News 10.26.08

October 26, 2008 · 3 Comments

  • Bob Patterson to try Praying Mantis Kung-fu. Yeah it’s not really news but it’s MY blog so sue me! Expect a beat-down report after this Wednesday!

Sifu offered me a free lesson before I pay for the real deal!

St. Pierre’s recent signing with the blue-chip entertainment and sports agency signals that the 27-year-old from Montreal is a desirable commodity – and that the corporate world is beginning to take notice of the sport of mixed martial arts.

The organization, whose last show featured a 14-second fight, calls it quits after losing $55 million.

A Toronto police officer told a jury yesterday of the “complete mayhem” that erupted on a busy downtown street when innocent bystander Jane Creba was shot and killed on Boxing Day 2005.

Forty Girl Scouts from around the county earned their self-defense badges on Saturday morning.

He taught self-defense at the Montana Law Enforcement Academy and, having lived in Japan for 15 years, acted as an interpreter for the state at the Kumamoto Center in Helena.

Kuk Sool Won students pledge to be drug-free and that is the goal of Drug Abuse Resistance Education.

  • Women’s boxing in 2012? I’m all for it!

THE International Boxing Association (AIBA) has submitted a formal proposal to the International Olympic Committee (IOC) to have women’s boxing included in the sports programme of the London Olympics in 2012, they announced today.

Slice never saw the punch. It was short and quick, similar to the one Muhammad Ali (then Cassius Clay) delivered against Sonny Liston during their heavyweight rematch in May 1965.

From the blogs:

Lets close this week’s news with something a little traditional. I give you Judokai-Kan JuJutsu!

I’d never go jogging in public while wearing my dobak!

~BCP

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